Guide to Buying Ultimate Cleats

For all the rookies heading out on a cleat run this weekend, here are the things you should be looking for in a pair of cleats. This is your only piece of equipment, so make sure you get it right!

  • Comfort. You’re going to be playing entire weekends in these. If they’re not comfortable, your feet are going to hate you on Sunday. All cleats will break in to a certain degree, but in my opinion they should be reasonably comfortable from the start. One thing to look out for when trying them on is stud pressure. You shouldn’t feel any “hot” points on the bottom of your feet either standing still or pushing off the ground. If you do feel a point where one of the studs is causing a lot of extra pressure, that should be a warning that you might be better of with a different size or model.
  • Fit. They should be tight! Not so tight that you’re going to explode them as soon as you start running, but you definitely don’t want your feet to be sliding around inside them while you’re cutting. That’s how you get blisters. Make sure you try on a couple different sizes. You may be a different size in one brand than you are in another, and you’ll probably find that certain brands fit you better than others (Coach Kaner swears by Adidas, I’ve typically had better luck with Nike).
  • Traction. There are two types of cleat: conical studs and blades. I think conical are generally a little better for ultimate’s unpredictable cutting, and they’re almost always better for turf. Since most Yuk practices will be on turf, it’s probably best to avoid bladed cleats. Make sure there is some sort of traction on the middle of the forefoot (the ball of the foot), which is where you’ll need it most when running. Certain soccer cleats are kind of lacking in that area.
  • Weight. When Kobe Bryant was working with Nike on his line of basketball shoes, they did a bunch of research to quantify the total energy expended in foot motion alone during a basketball game. What they found was that with so much movement over the course of a game, reducing the weight of the footwear by just an ounce or two would end up saving Kobe from literally hundreds of pounds of force by the end of the game. So Kobe wears low-tops and encourages Nike to make them as light as possible. If that reasoning is good enough for Kobe, it’s good enough for me. Clearly weight isn’t everything. You don’t want to sacrifice comfort just for a lighter shoe (especially in ultimate where you could be playing 12 hours over the course of a weekend), but you should try to avoid the more overtly bulky and heavy models.

Football Cleats vs. Soccer Cleats

Football cleats and soccer cleats are designed with very different goals in mind. In soccer, there’s a lot of consideration given to ball control and shooting power. This usually results in more expensive materials on the cleat upper and more expensive cleats in general. Soccer cleats don’t include a toe cleat at the tip of the foot, again for the sake of ball control, but I’ve found that this isn’t so important as long as there’s sufficient traction on other areas of the forefoot. Soccer cleats come in tiers, so an expensive cleat model will often have a bunch of progressively cheaper models in the same family. Sometimes a low end model flat out sucks, sometimes you’ll find a really solid cleat for a bargain. You won’t know until you try it on.

Football cleats come in a very wide variety to accommodate all of football’s various positions, but for ultimate you should only really be looking at the cleats designed for wide receivers. They’ll have more aggressive traction patterns (usually with a toe cleat) built specifically for sprinting and cutting. They’ll usually be more comfortable than a comparably priced soccer cleat because they’re just built for running, not kicking a ball around. Football cleats often come in a low-top and mid-top version (referring to ankle height). I’d encourage you to stick with the lows if you can. If you feel like you need the extra ankle support, in the long term you’re better off working on improving your ankle strength rather than buying cleats to compensate.

And yes, there are cleats for lacrosse too, but they’re very similar to football cleats and from what I’ve seen they don’t offer any distinct advantages over football or soccer cleats.

Detachable vs. Molded Cleats

Some football cleats are offered in both detachable and molded models. In my opinion, the molded models are always better. Molded cleats have a greater number of smaller studs which will give you better traction on a wider variety of surfaces. Detachables are meant for softer ground (which, as an ultimate player, you will almost never play on) and will be much more slippery on firm ground where they can’t dig in. Molded cleats are more durable and you won’t have to worry about them falling out or wearing out like detachables.

Where to Buy

Even if you don’t plan on buying from Dick’s, it’s definitely worth a trip down there to try a bunch of cleats on. Online, my favorite places to order are Eastbay and Soccer.com. They both have pretty solid return policies in you want to order a couple sizes and only keep one (just make sure you try them on in your room, since you won’t be able to return them once you’ve worn them on grass or turf and scuffed them up). When ordering online, always remember to check RetailMeNot to see if there are any good coupon codes for those sites.

Favorite Cleat Models

Football

Under Armour Blur. Really comfortable. Light. Great traction on grass or turf. I’m a little concerned about the durability as the bottom plate started to separate a little from the upper after the first game I wore them. It doesn’t appear to be getting much worse, but I’m not counting on them to last much more than one season. They’re on sale for $70 right now which is pretty awesome because, yes, they actually were over $100 when they came out at the start of the summer.

Nike Vapor Jet 4.2. Okay, so they’re three years old and discontinued and you’ll probably never find a pair, but I just wanted to highlight these for their comfort and awesome traction pattern. I also want to warn you that the two more recent versions of these cleats, the Vapor Carbon and the Vapor Talon, are nowhere near as good. The Carbon had a poorly designed soleplate that fell apart after playing in them for a month, and the Talon are nowhere near as comfortable. Shame on you, Nike. Do better next year. (Fun Nike Fact: If your cleats break within the first year, you can send them back for a full refund. If you buy Nikes, keep your receipt.)

Soccer

Nike Mercurial Miracle III. I know I said to avoid bladed cleats, but these actually do great on the CMU turf due to that one lateral blade at the center of the forefoot. Unfortunately, they’re completely useless on certain other turf fields. I couldn’t wear them at any Buffalo Hunters home games, or on the Spinners’ field. But I’ve been wearing them for most of the club season and they’re great on grass. They’re insanely comfortable and light, and Nike also makes a couple cheaper versions of Mercurial if the Miracle are out of your price range.

Nike Tiempo Flight. Another really good soccer option. Very comfortable, and the conical stud pattern make them good for both grass and turf. They’re actually lighter than the much more expensive high end model of the Nike Tiempo, which is a nice bonus.

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9 thoughts on “Guide to Buying Ultimate Cleats

  1. A point on the Vapor Carbons. I’m going to have to disagree with you. I have had 2 pairs of those and they have both lasted me a whole year of constant play. One of the best cleats I’ve ever gotten. Maybe you just got a bad pair because I’ve never heard of that issue from my experience or anyone else I know who has them.

  2. Thanks for the comment. Can I ask when you bought yours? I know I got mine right when they came out a couple years ago, and literally within four weeks they were missing studs. I can count off the top of my head at least four friends who were missing studs less than 2-3 months into owning them, including one friend who got an ID’ed pair that were broken within two weeks.

    I agree with you, they’re one of the best cleats I’d ever used, up until they fell apart. I suppose it’s possibly that it was just a manufacturing defect and it was corrected in the last year. But my concern is that Carbon’s soleplate is just fundamentally flawed, with studs that are glued in rather than a true single-piece molded soleplate like the Vapor Jet 4.2 had.

  3. The Vapor Carbon issue may also be exacerbated by playing strictly on turf (playing continuously on field turf over several weeks is when I noticed the missing studs)

  4. I wasn’t playing on turf at all when mine busted. I always assumed that it was the hard Pittsburgh ground that did it, and that turf would have been more forgiving.

  5. I’m a big fan of Under Armour cleats. I have had Nitro II’s, III’s and Blur II’s. The 4D foam footbed is awesome when you have to wear them all day at a tournament and the cleat pattern is perfect for cutting. I would blow out soccer cleats (Puma and Adidas) in less than a season but UA cleats will last me all college and club with no problem. I could probably get another year out of them, I just like to buy a new pair to start the season. Nike football cleats are good too, but they aren’t quite as durable or comfortable as UA.

  6. I always recommend that players get shoes with stiff insoles. They should bend at the metatarsal, but not under the arch. I have found this has reduced my and my teams ankle injuries to almost 0. Generally almost all football cleats will do this, but not soccer cleats under $100 will. Like you said soccer cleats put $ into the upper for ball control. Like you also said the cleats will look almost identical, but the $200 will save you from foot pain and ankle injury. \We have an Adidas and Nike employee store here so everyone gets their cleats there for half off. So bend you cleats before you buy them. If you can don’t get them.

    Great article.

  7. Just to add to that point, in my experience football cleats will come on the stiffer side and feel like hell for a little while until you break them in. That was definitely the case with all my Vapor Jets and the pair of Nike Speed TDs I had before that, as well as the Vapor Talon when I tried those on. The Vapor Carbons were a little easier to break in. And on the flip side, my Under Armour Blurs felt great right out of the box.

    (Side note, just to clarify with some of the terminology in the article, but I believe you’re talking about the soleplate stiffness. I think of the insole as the padded piece under the foot inside the shoe. But I could also be mistaken.)

    Also, I am interested in finding out where your secret Adidas and Nike employee stores are located. The Nike Outlet between Pittsburgh and my home in DC almost never has cleats.

  8. Just a note on why I like Adidas (scorch – football cleats) instead of the ubiquitous Nike: I have real wide feet (I think E, might be EE, something crazy). I seem to quickly destroy normal people cleats, and I’m pretty sure width is the reason.

    So for the wide-footed people, try some non-Nike stuff. New Balance would be good since they actually make wide cleats, but I don’t like the weight or cleat patterns on any of their stuff. Scorches seem to hold up as well as anything (usually around a calendar year) but there may be something else that works I haven’t tried yet

  9. I have a recommendation – Asics Lethal Touch Pro. They are designed for Touch Rugby in Australia, which has similar running patterns and ground conditions to ultimate. They have the lightness and shape of running shoes with a cleat pattern that gives as much grip as you could realistically expect on hard grounds. They also have a wider base than normal cleats which helps with stability/ankle issues.

    I’ve worn them on hard grounds with little grass, turf, and good grass fields with no issues. They are not so good on soft grounds. I also have wider feet and these didn’t blow out as quickly as most other cleats I’ve used. But I’ve never had any pair last more than a year.

    The only issue is availability – I’ve only ever seen them in Australia and New Zealand. But I have recently bought a pair on-line in Europe so it’s not impossible.

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